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		<title>Danny, Me and Henry&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was asked a couple of years back which other player Danny reminded me of the most and, without pausing for breath, I replied: &#8220;Henry&#8221; because he did &#8230; a little bit. It was met with such unexpectedly high levels of derision that, to save face; to pretend I wasn&#8217;t wounded &#8211; and that in fact [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>I was asked a couple of years back which other player Danny reminded me of the most and, without pausing for breath, I replied: &#8220;Henry&#8221; because he did &#8230; a little bit. It was met with such unexpectedly high levels of derision that, to save face; to pretend I wasn&#8217;t wounded &#8211; and that in fact I felt I should be the one laughing at them, not the other way around; that they were the ones who&#8217;d gotten it so catastrophically wrong &#8211; I had no choice: no choice but to forego my usual equanimity.  From that point onwards, where Danny was concerned, I went dark; darker even than that: fluorescent dark, I&#8217;m talking real messed up. I trained myself to make reference to Danny&#8217;s similarities with Henry whenever there was the slightest hint of one, and especially where there wasn&#8217;t; the obscurer the better. I was the saline drip (Oi! Who said without the saline?!) of the Welbeck Trust, slowly administering the comparison into their bloodstream. The problem was, these other people were armed with antibodies and things; things like facts and evidence and strong opinions and relatively well articulated arguments, not to mention bitterness, bad manners and I&#8217;m pretty sure I saw all of them steal from the &#8216;dogs for the blind&#8217; box at the bar &#8211; and so you see, being as I am, oil to their water &#8211; armed with only love and hope &#8211; I had no choice.</p>
<p>If anyone so much as owned, let alone raised, an eyebrow when Danny was unfortunate enough to have mistimed an attempt on goal on account of all that overt dynamicness (&#8220;scuffed a pea-roller harmlessly wide from eight yards&#8221;), they&#8217;d have me coming at &#8216;em like a distressed seagull (only with a beard and therefore more handsome): &#8220;YOU REALLY THINK HENRY SCORED EVERY TIME HE TOOK  A SHOT?! WELL DO YOU?! ANSWER ME?!&#8221; I&#8217;d say, but cleverer than that and with some longer words in it, I don&#8217;t remember which ones, it&#8217;s not important. Friends. Family. Children. Pets. Inanimate objects. Objects. Lists of objects. No-one or nothing was gonna have a bad word to say about Danny with Henry getting away with it. All the time I was crossing my fingers under the table &#8211; hoping that I just had to wait it out.</p>
<p>Loving Danny is easy, &#8216;cus he&#8217;s beautiful. I love Danny to bits. Loads of United fans do. Some don&#8217;t, but that&#8217;s something they&#8217;ll grow out of, so long as they can outrun the released hounds. It&#8217;s a no-brainer. He&#8217;s stockpiling boxes for us to tick as we speak. However, it&#8217;s not traitorous to note that his finishing has lacked the consistency we&#8217;d all perhaps wished he&#8217;d have by now and that when in full slalom, the ball occasionally intertwines itself betwixt his feet more by happy accident than design. When you&#8217;ve fallen in love with someone though, these little things are nothing more than adorable idiosyncrasies: &#8220;It&#8217;s no biggy Danny, we still love yer,&#8221; we whisper into our cups of tea.  Besides, we&#8217;ve all seen enough of Danny&#8217;s finishing, when it is more instinctive, or of confident mind, and enough penetrating runs with the ball absolutely in control, to recognise these as mere wrinkles that he&#8217;ll iron out over time, rather than something terminal.</p>
<p>Those people I used to hang out with have since moved on to sit at a different table in the pub, and so with Danny in the ascendancy, and receiving praise from all corners this summer, I thought I&#8217;d reiterate my feelings regarding the Henry comparison on Twitter, to see if I could recruit some digital allies. The abuse was swift, stealth like; amongst it a couple of death threats (hastily retracted) and some jip from United fans: &#8220;#Idiotz lik u giv us a bad gnome&#8230;&#8221;, etc. My tweet went something like this (actually, this is it verbatim): &#8220;<strong>Danny is better than Henry was when he first moved to Arsenal. Henry moved to Arsenal when he was 22 years old.</strong>&#8221;  The implication being, that, in my opinion (already implied in being posted from my Twitter account), Danny is better than Henry was &#8211; and this is the key part &#8211; when Henry <em>FIRST</em> moved to Arsenal. Also implicit in the comparison, is that the two players&#8217; ages are the same, at the point of their respective careers being referred to: Danny now, Henry then.  So it&#8217;s not entirely impossible for me to stretch my imagination and picture Danny getting somewhere close to achieving the amazing things that Henry has. It was a compliment to Henry. Of course, we don&#8217;t see tweets as they are, but as we are.</p>
<p>Inevitably I was also inundated with more of those &#8216;things&#8217; &#8211; all up in my chops again. The things like facts and that. So, I thought I&#8217;d try some of that there research myself; yuck. And yet. And yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Y&#8217;know, it turns out, Henry scored just three goals in sixteen games for Juventus, the season before he joined Arsenal, after being asked to play &#8216;out of position&#8217; as a winger (sounds familiar). Combining this with his scoring record for Monaco &#8211; and therefore encompassing his professional career to that point &#8211; his goals tally was just above one in every five games. So, if we then cross-reference this with Danny&#8217;s goal tally up to this point (not including the two against Swansea) it&#8217;s &#8230; oh &#8230; wait &#8230; just above one in five. There&#8217;s more &#8230; the internet stores this stuff &#8211; who knew?! Just before moving to Arsenal, Henry had broken into the French national side and, on his first appearance at a major tournament, finished as their top scorer. Danny happened to make the &#8216;step up&#8217; to international level much earlier in his career than Henry, relatively speaking, and &#8230; oh &#8230; wait &#8230; also became his national side&#8217;s top scorer in his first major tournament. Hey, that wasn&#8217;t so bad.</p>
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<p>With regards to Henry: I wasn&#8217;t that convinced by him at first, and I know that Arsenal fans I was friends with at the time (reluctantly and probably under duress and certainly never in public places), felt the same. He was seen as something of a &#8216;poor man&#8217;s&#8217; replacement for he-of-the-upside-down-smile, who was Real bound having burned Wenger&#8217;s cookies once too often. He proved me, and a lot of other people, wrong. That first season he went on to score 26 goals, no mean feat; especially in light of the fact that he initially took time to settle. The rest is Premier League history. I think, scooched in next to Eric, Scholesy and Giggsy, Henry rightly takes his seat in the pantheon of Premier League stars.  I would have absolutely loved him at United. The point being though (it&#8217;s in here somewhere), that a career viewed retrospectively, with the benefit of hindsight, does not my comparison quash.</p>
<p>Course, it&#8217;s not that I really think Danny is the new Henry: Henry is Henry, Danny is Danny. When I first made the comparison, it was to do with something about the way they both collected the ball &#8211; with a similar physicality &#8211; and shifted it on; something about the positions they took up; something about the runs they made; something about the types of shots they shape for. But more, it was something about wanting Danny to realise his potential and become one of the best players the Premier League has ever seen, and that is what it&#8217;s always been about.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve put a bet on Danny winning Player of the Year, not because I necessarily think he will &#8211; though I do necessarily think he will &#8211; but because he makes me feel giddy; he gives me hope. As I&#8217;ve written before, hope is seen by some as a negative, as delusional, but I see hope as a catalyst, a stimulant, that inspires to better things, and so, I really hope that in fourteen years time we&#8217;re talking about Danny Welbeck in the same breath as Thierry Henry.</p>
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		<title>United 1 &#8211; 2 Real</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 17:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the pub finally cleared on Tuesday, the Jukebox came on to this: all I could think of was the bit in Shaun of the Dead, &#8220;Aaaaaw! Who put this on?&#8221; asks Ed, to which Shaun replies through his tears, &#8220;It&#8217;s on random!&#8221; . . .]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the pub finally cleared on Tuesday, the Jukebox came on to this: all I could think of was the bit in <em>Shaun of the Dead,</em> &#8220;Aaaaaw! Who put this on?&#8221; asks Ed, to which Shaun replies through his tears, &#8220;It&#8217;s on random!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>United vs Real</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We’re inviting our Twitter friends, and now resident thought sharer Iwan Lehnert, to share some of their ‘Pre and Post Match’ thoughts with us from now on. If you want to share, get in touch! You can still enjoy my nonsensical, confusing, punctuation buffets below their proper good ones… Iwan (@IwanLehnert):  To be honest, I [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<h2><em>Iwan (<a href="https://twitter.com/IwanLehnert">@IwanLehnert</a>):</em></h2>
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<p> To be honest, I can’t call it. Honestly can’t. We’ve not lost a game in any competition since November, we’re looking solid, clinical and we look capable of getting a result against anyone. The manager wants one more European Cup before he retires, you can just sense it. On the other hand, Real just beat Barcelona twice in four days, and being so far behind in La Liga they have a nice clear run at that tenth European Cup. Ronaldo left us to win trophies like this elsewhere. Mourinho was hired to win it.</p>
<p>So, you pick one. I can’t. It’ll all come down to who wants it more. And there lies the turning point. Now I’m not suggesting for a second that our players don’t want to win, and aren’t desperate to make a big statement in this competition, but I think Real might just be a touch more desperate for it. Their league season realistically ended some time ago, and I can’t see Barcelona dropping 13 points before the end of May. They define themselves by the European Cup, and haven’t won it in 11 years. If the Premier League is our trophy, then this is Real’s.</p>
<p>The thing is our season won’t end depending on events tomorrow night. We still have a healthy lead over City and a home tie in the FA Cup coming up, whilst Real will be left with a tricky Copa Del Rey final against Atletico as their only consolation should they lose. I just I can’t help but feel that Real have more to lose tonight. That can work both ways; it’s either going to suffocate them and let us play with confidence, or make them exceptionally deadly.</p>
<p>I also don’t buy into everyone saying that the two victories over Barcelona aren’t important. Course they are. You beat the best club side in the world twice in the space of a week, it’ll raise your spirits. That’s just common sense, surely. I’m not saying that Real will swagger into Old Trafford and expect to win, but if we’d come up against City twice in such a short space of time and come out on top on both occasions, then we’d be feeling good about ourselves, for sure. Let’s not suggest that the Barcelona results will not have had a positive effect on Real in some form, because they will have. The mere fact that they were able to win 1-3 at the Nou Camp with that brutal counter-attacking display will have given them encouragement, and it won’t be the mother of all shocks if they do the same tonight.</p>
<p>At the risk of getting stuck writing a never-ending paragraph mulling over the line-up and the endless combinations and possibilities, let’s just say that if anything can get us through tonight, it’ll be the team spirit. It really feels we’ve got a group that wants to stick together and work hard for each other, and after last season, it’s a huge comfort. If the defence is leaking goals, then we’ll score more. If we’re keeping things tight at the back, then we’ll make sure we get a result. The attitude in the squad just seems so determined since the turn of the year, and they seem comfortable in the knowledge that they’re on the verge of a massive season. It’s in their hands. The attitude in the league has been spot on, and if that transfers itself to Europe, then we can beat anyone on our day.</p>
<p>It’s impossible to ignore Ronaldo’s return, Mourinho’s presence and the sheer magnitude of the tie. Our advantage is barely an advantage at all, and we know that we have to go out and beat one of the best teams in the world if we want to progress. For the next how-ever many hours, I’m going to be a ball of nerves, excitement, making up as many scenarios and outcomes as I can before my brain inevitably explodes. Up until 7:45pm.</p>
<p>I’m not normally one to make big statements like this, but as football fans, you like for nights like this.  See you on the other side.</p>
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<h2>Brett:</h2>
<p>I do wish we could all keep the confident talk of us winning the Champions League down?! If the footy gods get wind of it, we&#8217;re toast! As a seasoned expector of good things to happen, I have come to accept that good things tend to happen when the masses least expect them, or at least that&#8217;s one theory &#8211; the theory that I haven&#8217;t got a clue what I&#8217;m talking about tends to take precedence over  most others.</p>
<p>In the game that most people &#8211; United fans included &#8211; gave us little chance in, the perception is that we&#8217;ve managed to nudge our noses in front, but personally I think the away team can only really be considered in the driving seat with at least two goals under their belt. The second Real score &#8211; and we have to be pretty sure they will &#8211; they&#8217;re favourites; unless we&#8217;re already four up, in the last minute, with them down to nine men, with Ronaldo no longer on the field.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine Danny&#8217;s going to be playing from the start in the second, which makes me a bit sad. But hey it&#8217;s not all about me. Besides, he can come on and score and be an even bigger hero &#8211; isn&#8217;t that right Danny?! (He&#8217;s definitely reading this.) With our family of disfunctional wingers, we could certainly do worse right now, and even though I haven&#8217;t got a clue whether we&#8217;ll be going narrow or traditional, I think Fergie would opt for Ashley Young and TV if we were to be lining up as the latter.  With Fergie&#8217;s previous to go on, Nani could provide the wild card.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just dragged myself into predicting the team again, a wholy unhealthy pastime. So, let&#8217;s just get it out the way. I&#8217;d go 4-4-2 (4-5-1): David; Raf, Rio, Jonny, Evra; Carrick, Cleverley, Giggsy, TV; Rooney, RVP (Though I don&#8217;t think there is any chance this team will happen.). It&#8217;s a testament to the squad that any number of line-ups and personnel would be relatively welcome. The news Phil Jones isn&#8217;t fit to start doesn&#8217;t upset me personally, I much prefer Cleverley in there, despite Phil Jones&#8217; display at Real. I&#8217;m backing Rafael to take the game to them down the right, unlike he did in the first half in the first leg. If Giggsy starts I think I&#8217;ll smile forever, or at least till kick off (Actually, using Giggsy, as I think Fergie will, as a tool to lift the crowd from the bench, is by far the best policy).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been really enjoying the ongoing emotive mind games Fergie&#8217;s playing with Ronaldo. Speculation of him returning and talk of him coming home make for a highly emotionally charged Ronaldo &#8211; maybe a Ronaldo who can&#8217;t find it within himself to hammer the nail in our CL coffin, should the opportunity present itself. He&#8217;s pretty intensely self-interested, but I think it&#8217;s unfair to suggest that that&#8217;s all he is. He does have feelings for the club and Fergie and there&#8217;s nowt wrong with exploiting them, if it offers you a potential advantage* * This rule does not necessarily apply to real life &#8211; check the notes on context in your user manual.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really, really excited &#8211; the nerves have been shredding for the past week.</p>
<p><strong>Prediction: 2-1</strong></p>
<p><strong>Goals: RVP and Danny</strong></p>
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		<title>Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait (2006)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A squillion synchronised cameras all trained on Zinedine Zidane &#8211; what&#8217;s not to like?! The directors, Douglas Gordon and Philippe Parreno, I think, are attempting to address the awkward question of Football as Art? And they certainly put Football in its best clothes. But suitably lo-fi soundtracks (provided by purveyors of the craft Mogwai) and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>A squillion synchronised cameras all trained on Zinedine Zidane &#8211; what&#8217;s not to like?!</p>
<p>The directors, Douglas Gordon and Philippe Parreno, I think, are attempting to address the awkward question of Football as Art? And they certainly put Football in its best clothes. But suitably lo-fi soundtracks (provided by purveyors of the craft Mogwai) and quasi-gonzo camera work do not art make. Just &#8216;cus it looks and feels like art, you shouldn&#8217;t always be fooled. The production may be new to the football, but it&#8217;s an old trick art has been playing for a while. Having said that it&#8217;s also hard to argue that this isn&#8217;t a successfully realised piece of cinema.</p>
<p>I believe an artist (who creates art) is someone who brings something in to the world that wasn&#8217;t there before. Then, Zidane is artist. In beautifully crafting a new perspective from which to view something that we&#8217;re so familiar with, there is definitely an argument to cast the film-makers as artist too. (There&#8217;s a football as art thing, in relation to this film, I wrote <a href="http://bifurcated.co.uk/manchester-united-chitty-chatty/features/eat-my-an-oak-tree">here</a>)</p>
<p>The wild (almost other-worldly) look in Zidane&#8217;s eyes (captured in extreme close-up) could curdle milk, so be mindful not to watch with a cup of tea. It is eerily compelling and curiously emotive.</p>
<p>It beats Sky Player-Cam hands down.</p>
<p>p.s Look out for cameos from Real Madrid Beckham and Real Madrid Owen (Lol).</p>
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